Topic Options #943396 - 05/16/06 03:17 AMDid The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | ULVER Banned Over the Hill
Registered: 06/12/01 Posts: 1919 Loc: Atlanta, Ga.. | I want a NEW PONY! But...every once in the while, I find a cop, that asks me about my ride, and tells me he misses his ol' "Interceptor" Mine has been a good car! But I lust after the post-2000's. It just won't die yet!!! So, I areo-body on... Seriously, did these heaps do anything better??? _________________________ Signature removed. See rules. | Top | |
#943397 - 05/16/06 03:27 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | dRock96Marquis
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Registered: 02/22/05 Posts: 24395 Loc: Maryland | they are faster than a 98-00 (stock for stock, thanks to the weight advantage) They have a stronger rear suspension setup/linkage 9005/6 headlamps vs crappy 9007s More reliable mechanical fan. Pre-96's wont ahve their intake KabOOM! That is likely about it. This is probably better for the lounge | Top | |
#943398 - 05/16/06 06:19 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | TechnoWeenie Banned Posting Addict
Registered: 10/02/04 Posts: 22857 Loc: The perimeter | dont forget aerodynamics,hehe..(I'm assuming) although I think the electrical fan is a + _________________________
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#943399 - 05/16/06 08:44 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | GlocksterJames Climber
Registered: 09/09/03 Posts: 987 Loc: Aberdeen, Washington | Most officers that I've talked to regarding the aero vics compared to '98+, just seems they agreed the aero vic didn't break down compared to the newer ones. Personally, I agree to a degree as almost all newer vehicles seem to have more problems than the older ones, from what I've seen in my experience. _________________________ Signature removed. See rules. | Top | |
#943400 - 05/16/06 08:56 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | metroplex Metroplectic
Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 49827 Loc: Motor City, USA | Quote: they are faster than a 98-00 (stock for stock, thanks to the weight advantage) The pre-98s were pretty much dogs. The 99-00 were faster due to the 3.55s, and the 01-up were much faster due to the PI 4.6 V8. The better aerodynamics and reduced weight of the pre-98s contributed to better gas mileage though.
Quote:They have a stronger rear suspension setup/linkage Good point. Towing capacity is rated higher as well.
Quote:9005/6 headlamps vs crappy 9007s Crappy 9005/9006 vs crappy 9007s. I'd say we don't have a clear winner here unless it is E-Code H4 or HIDs, or a combination of driving lamps and headlamps.
Quote:More reliable mechanical fan. DIdn't they have an e-fan as well? Regardless, mechanical fans have clutches that can wear out. The E-fan makes belt changes easier and has less clutter in front of the engine. The E-fan also doesn't consume as much hp to operate. Here's one more: Better interior and exterior fit/finish and build quality. I know Russ still says he misses his 95 CVPI and his 97 CVPI and thinks the 98-up were crap.
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#943402 - 05/16/06 10:17 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | Virginiamountainman Over the HillRegistered: 04/04/02 Posts: 2093 Loc: North Carolina | I had a '96 and two '97s, and now have a '99. I think the newer Aeros look better than the '98 up. I also agree, fuel economy is a little better. The rear suspension may be a little tougher on the Aeros, but I prefer the '99's ride by a wide margin. It handles MUCH better IMO than the two Aeros I had. I have heard some folks talk about the '98 and newer Panthers being more prone to break down, but in the year that I have had this '99, it has been totally reliable. It's in the shop today getting an alignment, fresh gear oil, and the brake fluid and power steering fluid flushed. I drive it hard at times, but I do NOT do burn-outs. Maybe that's where some of the break downs come from. From what I have heard, the '01 and '02 models are probably the best built cars since the '96s and '97s. VMM _________________________ 2004 silver unmarked P71 Lieutenant's car from NCSHP, purchased 060208 with 90,247 easy miles. Geared 3.27. Accufab 70MM throttle body. Accufab plenum, ported and polished. NGK TR55IX plugs. Magnaflow direct fit high flow cat pipes. Magnaflow 12255 mufflers. Steeda underdrives. Goodyear Assurance TripleTred 225/60/16. Drilled/slotted rotors with ceramic pads. UHaul trans pan with a STINKING drain plug that should have come from the factory. | Top | |
#943403 - 05/16/06 10:34 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | Chevyguy
PoobahRegistered: 01/05/04 Posts: 9450 Loc: Winchester Mass | Hmm the Watts linkage rear was supposed to be an IMPROVMENT vs the old 4 link. Vastly better lateral stability. Ford downgraded the towing capacity in 97 the last of the Aero's this has been exposed as marketing crap to push you towards buying POS exploders I may be biased to my 01 as my 93 is in much rougher shape. The Aero also has less leg room and my knee hits the dash _________________________ 2004 MarauderM79 155K miles Jmod!! Rockin Stock tune Daily, Muscle Merc tune for track 14.85 @95.63 2004 Crown Vic LX SOLD!! New Daily 2016 Dodge Charger R/T Road and track, purchase with 16K now 23K after 3 months. 5.7 Hemi, 8 speed ZF trans 3.06 open rear 13.98 @ 99.2 mph 4740 lbs with driver!! R.I.P Photobucket 10 years of hosting down the drain
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#943404 - 05/16/06 10:48 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | Virginiamountainman Over the HillRegistered: 04/04/02 Posts: 2093 Loc: North Carolina | There ain't no denying my '99 rides and handles a whole lot better than the three Aeros I owned. VMM Quote: Hmm the Watts linkage rear was supposed to be an IMPROVMENT vs the old 4 link. Vastly better lateral stability.Ford downgraded the towing capacity in 97 the last of the Aero's this has been exposed as marketing crap to push you towards buying POS exploders I may be biased to my 01 as my 93 is in much rougher shape. The Aero also has less leg room and my knee hits the dash _________________________ 2004 silver unmarked P71 Lieutenant's car from NCSHP, purchased 060208 with 90,247 easy miles. Geared 3.27. Accufab 70MM throttle body. Accufab plenum, ported and polished. NGK TR55IX plugs. Magnaflow direct fit high flow cat pipes. Magnaflow 12255 mufflers. Steeda underdrives. Goodyear Assurance TripleTred 225/60/16. Drilled/slotted rotors with ceramic pads. UHaul trans pan with a STINKING drain plug that should have come from the factory. | Top | |
#943405 - 05/16/06 11:01 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | 32VMarquis n00b
Registered: 03/09/06 Posts: 44 | So I must say if your have to get an Aero bodystyle, you can never go wrong with a pre-98 grand marquis! Post-98 interior with weight savings of pre-98 and I just think the way the tail lights are on them is awesome! Now I just have to find out how I can get a marauder front clip on it! I love the look of that front end~! _________________________ 1995 MGM Champagne with tan leather. This thing needs cosmetic work but what can you expect for 200 bucks~ But it runs great!
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#943406 - 05/16/06 11:49 AMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | Virginiamountainman Over the HillRegistered: 04/04/02 Posts: 2093 Loc: North Carolina | One more thing: While I have no regrets at all about buying this '99, if you want the most bang for the buck, find a NICE unmarked '96 or '97, catch up on all the maintenance, and go first class on your ongoing maintenance. I doubt that it would lay down on you before you finally get tired of it. I passed up a dark blue '97 a while back with 40,000 miles. It was a tough decision. VMM _________________________ 2004 silver unmarked P71 Lieutenant's car from NCSHP, purchased 060208 with 90,247 easy miles. Geared 3.27. Accufab 70MM throttle body. Accufab plenum, ported and polished. NGK TR55IX plugs. Magnaflow direct fit high flow cat pipes. Magnaflow 12255 mufflers. Steeda underdrives. Goodyear Assurance TripleTred 225/60/16. Drilled/slotted rotors with ceramic pads. UHaul trans pan with a STINKING drain plug that should have come from the factory. | Top | |
#943407 - 05/16/06 12:15 PMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | observer Over the Hill
Registered: 01/07/02 Posts: 3883 | "They have a stronger rear suspension setup/linkage" "Good point. Towing capacity is rated higher as well. " i have noticed alot of yellow 98+ cabs here have the older (upto 97)non watts link rear end. (Yes I can easily see it when following behind.) i even mentioned it to a friend in the pass seat who knew nothing about cars and he could clearly see it they either put a 98+ body on an aero frame or a older axle on a 98+ car. prob just the axle i like my aero because it does not cause as much attention. and the attention gets less and less with each passing year _________________________ 1997 P71 145K miles | Top | |
#943408 - 05/16/06 01:10 PMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | dRock96Marquis
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Registered: 02/22/05 Posts: 24395 Loc: Maryland | Quote:
Quote: they are faster than a 98-00 (stock for stock, thanks to the weight advantage) The pre-98s were pretty much dogs. The 99-00 were faster due to the 3.55s, and the 01-up were much faster due to the PI 4.6 V8. The better aerodynamics and reduced weight of the pre-98s contributed to better gas mileage though. I was comapring a 2.73 equipped -97 to a 98-00 2.73 car (which I have personally compared in the past ) The aero was without a doubt quicker.My aero, after 3.27s + Duals were instaled, was also quicker than a 99 CVPI equipped with 3.55s. So pffft.
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Quote:9005/6 headlamps vs crappy 9007s Crappy 9005/9006 vs crappy 9007s. I'd say we don't have a clear winner here unless it is E-Code H4 or HIDs, or a combination of driving lamps and headlamps. Fine i will correct it:
Quote: Crappy 9005/6 vs crappier 9007 Quote:
Quote:More reliable mechanical fan. DIdn't they have an e-fan as well? Regardless, mechanical fans have clutches that can wear out. The E-fan makes belt changes easier and has less clutter in front of the engine. The E-fan also doesn't consume as much hp to operate. Yes, aeros have both an e-fan and mech windmill The clutches do wear out, but unlike the e-fan it will not completely fail and leave you stranded (bad experience in our old 98 town car), it's effectiveness fades. Snaking the belt over the fan is nothing, it may take a person an extra minute or so... | Top | |
#943409 - 05/16/06 01:44 PMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | PlainOldDave Climber
Registered: 08/24/04 Posts: 775 Loc: Oak Ridge, TN | Cornering lamps and the way-cool Lighting Package, not to mention I think the aeros are better looking cars than the 1998+; if I had wanted a Mercury, I would have bought a Mercury. I still don't understand why the Lighting Package was done away with for 1998... _________________________ Mine: 1998 P73, 244K miles. Hers: 1996 P74, 165K miles. | Top | |
#943410 - 05/16/06 01:49 PMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | Bobert2647 Former Vic Owner Posting Addict
Registered: 09/16/04 Posts: 21245 Loc: West TN | Umm Derek just to clear things up it's 95-97 aeros have both mech, and electric fans. Granted you can't fo wrong with a mech fan. Electric does free up a little HP and MPG. | Top | |
#943411 - 05/16/06 01:50 PMRe: Did The Pre-98's Do Anything Better>? | metroplex Metroplectic
Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 49827 Loc: Motor City, USA | The 98-up have a "fail safe cooling system" that SUPPOSEDLY allows sub-50 mph operation for 50 miles... My Vic doesn't need the e-fan to run constantly to keep the ECT within norm. With enough airflow (highway driving) the coolant is kept cool. The 96-97 vs 98-00 in terms of performance is indeed an easy one: the 98-00 are heavier and do not have much horsepower over the 96-97. _________________________ These aren't the droids you're looking for! | Top | |
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